Industrial and its related sub-genres (or are they complexes or neuroses?) now has such a long history that there’s limited scope for innovation. Industrial listeners even accept this to some extent, tolerating or welcoming the skilful repetition and re-deployment of industrial’s corroding sonic archetypes. Yet it is not sufficient to simply repeat them ad nauseam. The sounds do not have to be “fresh”, (a certain stagnancy is even one of the genre’s tropes), but at this stage in industrial’s evolution/de-generation veteran listeners need something more to fully engage them.